In reply to Timothy.

Gosh Timothy, while these people may be many things, you ramp up your point to murder rather quickly, which is far from what occurred here. You know what they say, be careful what you wish for. We don't need more severe penalties (well, in some cases maybe we do). The main problem these days is lack of enforcement of current laws (the boarder being the prime example), unless of course you are on the wrong side of the political spectrum, in which case the laws will be used "creatively" to destroy your life far beyond any reasonable measure for whatever your transgression was, if there even was a transgression to begin with (just ask Trump about that). And this is the entire point of lax law enforcement; the people that want to destroy our society don't enforce laws, which then causes people to demand more law enforcement and more draconian penalties. Then the politicos take that increased power and focus it on their political enemies, and we get totalitarian government. Don't fall for that.